08-28-14, 04:43 PM
08-28-14, 06:24 PM
I know that I'm going to be accused of hijacking another thread here and I guess that I am, but this is important.
Zoran,
Please don't feel like Mike and me are ganging up on you here, because we're not, we are just concerned about our friend. Mike is very knowledgeable regarding computers and on-line related things including security and I was involved in the Banking industry for almost 34 years before I retired awhile back, so both of us have seen what happens when things go wrong in our respective fields.
Sending any type of sensitive information, financial or otherwise via any type of an unsecured e-mail service, which most all of them are, just isn't safe, no matter how you break up the information. Once you send information out in "cyber space" it stays out there forever. If a cyber criminal gets ahold of your credit card number and your e-mail address, that gives then an in to try to obtain other sensitive personnel information. It might not be an issue this time, but the next time you do so it might not work out as well is all that we're trying to say.
As anyone can tell you that pays attention to this kind of information, huge retail companies as well as huge Banks have been being hacked on a regular basis and while smaller businesses and individuals aren't nearly as large of a target for most cyber criminals, there is still a large group of hackers watching those types of folks as well, so you must always be extremely careful no matter who you are, or where you live my friend.
If you run into companies like this one that don't offer safer forms of worldwide payment such as an encrypted web site checkout option, or a PayPal payment option, I'd recommend as your friend that you go somewhere else that does. Identity theft happens on a daily basis worldwide and it's the kind of grief that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Richard
Zoran,
Please don't feel like Mike and me are ganging up on you here, because we're not, we are just concerned about our friend. Mike is very knowledgeable regarding computers and on-line related things including security and I was involved in the Banking industry for almost 34 years before I retired awhile back, so both of us have seen what happens when things go wrong in our respective fields.
Sending any type of sensitive information, financial or otherwise via any type of an unsecured e-mail service, which most all of them are, just isn't safe, no matter how you break up the information. Once you send information out in "cyber space" it stays out there forever. If a cyber criminal gets ahold of your credit card number and your e-mail address, that gives then an in to try to obtain other sensitive personnel information. It might not be an issue this time, but the next time you do so it might not work out as well is all that we're trying to say.
As anyone can tell you that pays attention to this kind of information, huge retail companies as well as huge Banks have been being hacked on a regular basis and while smaller businesses and individuals aren't nearly as large of a target for most cyber criminals, there is still a large group of hackers watching those types of folks as well, so you must always be extremely careful no matter who you are, or where you live my friend.
If you run into companies like this one that don't offer safer forms of worldwide payment such as an encrypted web site checkout option, or a PayPal payment option, I'd recommend as your friend that you go somewhere else that does. Identity theft happens on a daily basis worldwide and it's the kind of grief that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Richard
08-28-14, 06:35 PM
Yep I get that..I guess some background on me is needed as well for balance.
I have run IT companies since the early 90's. Owned one of Australia's very first web design and hosting services companies. And have been developing for the web since then. I was lecturing I.T. at a Polytechnic University in Finland for 4 years before starting another company here. That specializes in e-Learning as well as traditional training for languages and culture. We have grown the company to the second largest in its' field since beginning in 2005.
The sending of emails with any sensitive material in it is not the issue. The USAGE of info at the other end is. Maybe our system over here differs from the US one, but since Finland has been 100% digital for banking since the 90's (one of the pioneers in ATM tech), any fraudulent activity on any of my cards is covered by bank insurance.
Since I can easily track purchases made against my card online, anything NOT mine only means either the bank let's me know they detected something out of the ordinary or, I tell them. In both cases I won't lose a cent.
As it stands I have watched my account since I sent those emails..nothing has occurred.
This level of tech over here has been a source of humor for years, since at times some of our US counterparts have tried to send us cheques to pay for our services. We cannot handle cheques, I think the last actual cheque in Finland was back in the early 90's. Banks simply do not handle paper over here. Since you have a banking background you might also be interested that ever since the advent of ATM's, Finland has only ever had ONE brand of them! ALL banks can use the same machines. Even back home in Australia banks still have their 'own' cash machines, and although you CAN use another banks machines, you DO get charged extra for it.
Nothing like that ever existed in Finland!
I have run IT companies since the early 90's. Owned one of Australia's very first web design and hosting services companies. And have been developing for the web since then. I was lecturing I.T. at a Polytechnic University in Finland for 4 years before starting another company here. That specializes in e-Learning as well as traditional training for languages and culture. We have grown the company to the second largest in its' field since beginning in 2005.
The sending of emails with any sensitive material in it is not the issue. The USAGE of info at the other end is. Maybe our system over here differs from the US one, but since Finland has been 100% digital for banking since the 90's (one of the pioneers in ATM tech), any fraudulent activity on any of my cards is covered by bank insurance.
Since I can easily track purchases made against my card online, anything NOT mine only means either the bank let's me know they detected something out of the ordinary or, I tell them. In both cases I won't lose a cent.

This level of tech over here has been a source of humor for years, since at times some of our US counterparts have tried to send us cheques to pay for our services. We cannot handle cheques, I think the last actual cheque in Finland was back in the early 90's. Banks simply do not handle paper over here. Since you have a banking background you might also be interested that ever since the advent of ATM's, Finland has only ever had ONE brand of them! ALL banks can use the same machines. Even back home in Australia banks still have their 'own' cash machines, and although you CAN use another banks machines, you DO get charged extra for it.
Nothing like that ever existed in Finland!

08-28-14, 07:27 PM
Zoran,
Ok my friend, it looks as if you have all of your security bases covered and I feel much better.
That is absolutely true in theory, but the major problem with that though, is that once you've hit the "send" button on your end for that non secured e-mail, you've lost all control over who could possibly view it and have the chance to misuse any sensitive information contained within.
Looking at this problem on a larger scale, even if your bank does refund your money on a fraudulent transaction as they should, the vendor who sold their merchandise to the cyber criminal who used your stolen account number will lose profits when your bank reverses the transaction to reimburse you. While that doesn't seem like that process will affect you directly, it absolutely does, because all of the retailers who lose profits in this way aren't going to take those loses laying down, they will just increase their prices, so the next time you go shopping, you will end up paying higher prices for all of those fraudulent transactions one way or another.
I don't even want to get into what I feel is happening in the Banking community here in the U.S., but lets just say that Finland is light years ahead of us in many areas and leave it at that.
Richard
Ok my friend, it looks as if you have all of your security bases covered and I feel much better.
Quote:The sending of emails with any sensitive material in it is not the issue. The USAGE of info at the other end is
That is absolutely true in theory, but the major problem with that though, is that once you've hit the "send" button on your end for that non secured e-mail, you've lost all control over who could possibly view it and have the chance to misuse any sensitive information contained within.
Looking at this problem on a larger scale, even if your bank does refund your money on a fraudulent transaction as they should, the vendor who sold their merchandise to the cyber criminal who used your stolen account number will lose profits when your bank reverses the transaction to reimburse you. While that doesn't seem like that process will affect you directly, it absolutely does, because all of the retailers who lose profits in this way aren't going to take those loses laying down, they will just increase their prices, so the next time you go shopping, you will end up paying higher prices for all of those fraudulent transactions one way or another.
I don't even want to get into what I feel is happening in the Banking community here in the U.S., but lets just say that Finland is light years ahead of us in many areas and leave it at that.
Richard
08-29-14, 03:58 AM
HI Richard..and yep this is now way off topic! LOL
That is true as to the losses.
As for the banking industry, yes the most trouble we have getting or even sending money over is with the US. Incredible as I find that situation.
Over here my company has always had electronic and thus paperless invoicing. All of my 130-odd trainers throughout Finland use online course reporting/attendance systems (that I helped build as custom modules for our CRM system), and their reporting links seamlessly to our electronic payroll. SO my trainers only have one place to report and that automatically talks through the API to our payroll system. Even our service provider trainers (usually single man 'companies') have their 'invoice' to us automatically created and sent to our paperless invoice system, without them having to create their own each month.
All of this is only possible due to standardization of the systems involved. You gotta hand it to the Scandic countries mate..They have created really good systems that are all integrated by design, right from the start. Makes things much easier as you can tell.
That is true as to the losses.
As for the banking industry, yes the most trouble we have getting or even sending money over is with the US. Incredible as I find that situation.
Over here my company has always had electronic and thus paperless invoicing. All of my 130-odd trainers throughout Finland use online course reporting/attendance systems (that I helped build as custom modules for our CRM system), and their reporting links seamlessly to our electronic payroll. SO my trainers only have one place to report and that automatically talks through the API to our payroll system. Even our service provider trainers (usually single man 'companies') have their 'invoice' to us automatically created and sent to our paperless invoice system, without them having to create their own each month.
All of this is only possible due to standardization of the systems involved. You gotta hand it to the Scandic countries mate..They have created really good systems that are all integrated by design, right from the start. Makes things much easier as you can tell.
08-29-14, 12:38 PM
A very interesting system indeed Zoran, but I have to admit that I'm not sure how that relates to my original concern of sending sensitive information via unsecured e-mails my friend.
Anyway, I'll just stop that conversation and will wait for your report on the window weatherstrips. Hopefully there will be good news on that topic.
Richard
Anyway, I'll just stop that conversation and will wait for your report on the window weatherstrips. Hopefully there will be good news on that topic.
Richard
11-17-14, 09:25 PM
Ok. I have read all the foregoing and this is what I can tell you. I have a 67 Coronet 500 and I just took apart the rear quarter windows and innereds this weekend. The following pics show that the INSIDE of the rear windows has a staple that the ends poke through and are curled into each other like a regular staple. The fuzzy part is a whisker like deal. This is attached to the removable top panel that goes above the door panel on the inside.
Now, for the OUTSIDE there is a clip( see the picture) that fits through the slots in the body panel. These are original equipment to my 67. My strip of fuzzy or whatever is badly deteriorated unfortunately. it looks like it's a rubber wiping edge that is folded over and the inside of the fold is attached to the backing strip which is in turn attached to the car body via the aforementioned clips.
I hope that this helps! No I do not know where you can obtain said clips or anything else. I have not looked for them yet. Good luck.
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Randy.
PS; If I find any of these items I will post that here on this thread.
Now, for the OUTSIDE there is a clip( see the picture) that fits through the slots in the body panel. These are original equipment to my 67. My strip of fuzzy or whatever is badly deteriorated unfortunately. it looks like it's a rubber wiping edge that is folded over and the inside of the fold is attached to the backing strip which is in turn attached to the car body via the aforementioned clips.
I hope that this helps! No I do not know where you can obtain said clips or anything else. I have not looked for them yet. Good luck.
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Randy.
PS; If I find any of these items I will post that here on this thread.
11-18-14, 12:53 AM
We too have pondered the install of the rear inner whiskers. Our car has the staples and my patient father actually removed the staples (without breaking them)and the whisker! There is no way you could re install them into a new piece and match the old holes in the trim panel though. For some reason I thought the kit he bought some years ago has small flat head Phillips screws to attach them.
The factory had to have a giant stapler and installed them after they were painted. The assembly was then screwed onto the inner qtr.
The factory had to have a giant stapler and installed them after they were painted. The assembly was then screwed onto the inner qtr.
11-18-14, 04:35 AM
Right..
I got my new whiskers but they won't be going on until next year. The place where i have to keep my car is at the workshop that we are doing by engine rebuild at. There is no room to work on my car though. Only enough space for the car itself. Upside, at least the storage area is warm all winter. But I cannot get the doors open let alone fit the whiskers.
I got my new whiskers but they won't be going on until next year. The place where i have to keep my car is at the workshop that we are doing by engine rebuild at. There is no room to work on my car though. Only enough space for the car itself. Upside, at least the storage area is warm all winter. But I cannot get the doors open let alone fit the whiskers.

11-18-14, 11:24 AM
I haven't tried to install them yet, but I was thinking of just using pop rivets. They should sink into the fuzzy part and not be noticed.
Any other ideas?
Any other ideas?