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If you ask me, you're going about it all wrong by picking the cam for how h\teh engine will idle. A well sorted out car has every single part chosen for how well they will work together. I got a pile of cast-oof garbage 318 to go 14.62 @92 mph by making sure there was not a single piece that was too radical for the others to deal with. I had NO MONEY in the engine or the trans or the rear. The engine had probably 100,000 miles and the original head gaskets (valves and springs factory installed and never touched. That combo would surely have been able to break into the 13's with a stock rebuild and a valve job. Run the wrong cam and you will HATE your car. My advice is to call Comp Cams and tell them EXACTLY what you have for parts and let them recommend a cam.
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Low gear band apply has nothing to do with the transmissions abilitiy to deal with a lumpy cam. Go to the dragstrip and look at how many cars are running automatics vs. manuals. It is fairly easy but not cheap to get an automatic to live a happy life in a very fast car (8 second 1,500 hp range). I built a 727 for a frinds Dart that made over 200 low 10 high 9 second passes.
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67r/t4speeder Wrote:Just wondering why you would not want to not a have low band apply?
Something to do with drag racing, keeping RPMs up on a burnout?
Sorry wrong question wrong time didn't mean too get off track here just wondering
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Sedanman67 Wrote:If you ask me, you're going about it all wrong by picking the cam for how h\teh engine will idle. A well sorted out car has every single part chosen for how well they will work together. I got a pile of cast-oof garbage 318 to go 14.62 @92 mph by making sure there was not a single piece that was too radical for the others to deal with. I had NO MONEY in the engine or the trans or the rear. The engine had probably 100,000 miles and the original head gaskets (valves and springs factory installed and never touched. That combo would surely have been able to break into the 13's with a stock rebuild and a valve job. Run the wrong cam and you will HATE your car. My advice is to call Comp Cams and tell them EXACTLY what you have for parts and let them recommend a cam.
I'm not using a radical cam just because I like the sound it makes . It will be one of many hi per parts i'll be using . I like high HP engines and like using the HP . Hope I cleared that up for you . BooBoo
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67r/t4speeder Wrote:Just wondering why you would not want to not a have low band apply?
Something to do with drag racing, keeping RPMs up on a burnout?
Actually low band apply can be a good thing - it helps protect the sprag. Drawback is that you can have 1-2 shift timing issues, usually overlap (trans in 1st & 2nd at the same time briefly) If you don't have low band apply there can be no overlap. Try this - if you have a stock trans, put in drive and accelerate - notice the clean 1-2 shift. Then try and shift the trans manually - you will notice the difference...overlap.
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theman440 Wrote:Actually low band apply can be a good thing - it helps protect the sprag. Drawback is that you can have 1-2 shift timing issues, usually overlap (trans in 1st & 2nd at the same time briefly) If you don't have low band apply there can be no overlap. Try this - if you have a stock trans, put in drive and accelerate - notice the clean 1-2 shift. Then try and shift the trans manually - you will notice the difference...overlap.
Now I understand thanks Jeff
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BooBoo Wrote:I'm not using a radical cam just because I like the sound it makes . It will be one of many hi per parts i'll be using . I like high HP engines and like using the HP . Hope I cleared that up for you . BooBoo
My bad, I must have misjudged your engine building skills. Usually when someone gets to such a high level as yourself they prety much understand how a heater blower circuit and a manual valve body work. I'm sorry I missed something. What exactly is a "high perfromance" engine? 400hp? 1,400hp? Pump gas, E-85, or race gas? How fast? 12 seconds? 9? 8? Please enlighten me. I have so much to learn.
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Sedanman67 Wrote:My bad, I must have misjudged your engine building skills. Usually when someone gets to such a high level as yourself they prety much understand how a heater blower circuit and a manual valve body work. I'm sorry I missed something. What exactly is a "high perfromance" engine? 400hp? 1,400hp? Pump gas, E-85, or race gas? How fast? 12 seconds? 9? 8? Please enlighten me. I have so much to learn.
Low 15s in a 3/8 mile nothing but motor . Now I didnt say anything to insult you in anyway shape or form . I dont argue over the internet so you'll have to troll for someone else . If I,ve done something wrong I'll be more then happy to let the moderator correct me which will then be followed up with an apology ,,,,,,,,,,,,,if I'm deemed wrong . Thanks . BooBoo
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So booboo, have you had a bad experience with shift kits since you say you wouldn't want one?
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