Kevin,
This style wiring diagram might come in handy, as you can take it outside while you're working on the car. It's cool because all of the wires are shown in the correct factory colors, plus it's covered in laminated plastic, so you won't have to worry about getting it dirty, or wet. By the way, these are also offered for most all popular Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler models, as well as other makes.
Richard
1968 Dodge Charger & Charger R/T Models, Laminated 11X17 Color Wiring Diagram
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-68-Dodge-Ch...5655c9f825
I am thinking, buying new dash, engine and forward light harnesses.
question for anyone who replaced the dash harness, does the whole dash need to come out? or can it be replaced while the dash is in place
these look promising
http://www.wiringharness.com/PDFS/Chrysl...nesses.pdf
I've changed all the harnesses in a 67 Charger (or Discharger as we called it) with out taking out the dash. Course I was 25, 145 lbs, and flexible. None of the previous descriptions I am anymore.
You don't need to take whole dash out.
Piper Wrote:I am thinking, buying new dash, engine and forward light harnesses.
question for anyone who replaced the dash harness, does the whole dash need to come out? or can it be replaced while the dash is in place
these look promising
http://www.wiringharness.com/PDFS/Chrysl...nesses.pdf
Kevin,
You do not have to remove the entire dashboard assembly out of your Charger to install a new dash harness, but you will most likely need to remove some of the various parts such as the gauge cluster, glove box liner and a/c duct work if your car has factory a/c to give you access to the backside of the dash and firewall where the main dash wiring harness is located.
As far as removing the entire dashboard assembly from the car goes, the biggest drawback of doing that on a Mopar. is that you will have to first remove all of the internal and external windshield moulding trim, the windshield glass and the windshield gasket in order to access the fasteners that attach the metal dash shell to the body, so unless you want to go that route, you will have to work inside of the car and remove dash parts as needed.
Regarding the M&H wiring harnesses sold through Year One. I went that route during the restoration of my sons 72 Dart Swinger back in 2005-2006 and I was very happy with the workmanship and overall quality of the various harnesses that I purchased. While I did not purchase one of the M&H main dash harnesses due to the hefty price, I did purchase a forward engine and front lighting harness, as well as the dash to rear tail light harness. I also purchased one of the M&H engine and front lighting harnesses for my 66 Coronet many years ago from Year One, but have not installed it yet, but once again, I was very happy with it's quality.
Just be aware though, that buying a main dash wiring harness does not mean that you will receive all, or any of the additional smaller wiring harnesses used for various options such as a/c and other similar factory options that plug into the main harness, so verify carefully with Year One, or M&H if you deal directly with them, exactly what you will receive with the main harness you purchase for your Charger.
Richard
Yeah what Richard said I just did a 68
thanks for the responses (and encouragement) gents, the bulhead looks like it comes in the replacement and those wires that rewired to go straight through(in my picture early...well I don't know if I like that
Rich I am with ya..I took out the drivers seat the other day, because I was wedged between seat and the dash with the seat in..and the first first time in my life I had a flash thought "I cant get up...I am really stuck"
Piper Wrote:thanks for the responses (and encouragement) gents, the bulhead looks like it comes in the replacement and those wires that rewired to go straight through(in my picture early...well I don't know if I like that
Rich I am with ya..I took out the drivers seat the other day, because I was wedged between seat and the dash with the seat in..and the first first time in my life I had a flash thought "I cant get up...I am really stuck"
Yes, that has happened to me too, but my whole arm was way up inside the dash of a modern car. Also it seems that the dash frame keeps getting closer to the floor as time goes on. I can't seem to get my eyes far enough away to see.
On a more serious note, do consider taking the windshield out if it's a contender for replacement. It woud be a shame to fight that much with the harnesses only to replace the windshield in a year or two. Then you can get into everything easily to fix, not just the harnesses.
windshield has to come out anyway because its has what looks like it was hit with a BB was saving it for when its time to do the roof skin..I was laughing at myself when I put the new wipers on the car
thought of a Christine quote
Piper Wrote:thanks for the responses (and encouragement) gents, the bulhead looks like it comes in the replacement and those wires that rewired to go straight through(in my picture early...well I don't know if I like that
Rich I am with ya..I took out the drivers seat the other day, because I was wedged between seat and the dash with the seat in..and the first first time in my life I had a flash thought "I cant get up...I am really stuck"
Kevin,
I just turned 58 yesterday, which is 406 in dog years which is about how old I feel most days, so I feel your pain my friend!
I'm facing the same type of decision on my 66 Coronet 500 as I start it's interior restoration. My car still has it's original factory installed windshield glass and windshield gasket in place which doesn't leak or have any other issues, so I'm really hesitant to remove those pieces to allow me to remove my complete dashboard assembly for restoration outside of the car. I'm also hesitant to remove the windshield due to the all of the horror stories that I've heard from others who have dealt with leaking and fitment issues after they installed one of the aftermarket windshield gaskets, but the thought of having to completely restore my dash assembly inside of the car makes my neck, shoulders and back hurt just thinking about that project! :p At this point I'm still not sure which way I will go with that.
I'm not sure about you Kevin, but I'm starting to fell that I'm getting to old for this classic car restoration stuff!
Richard